dual boot vista only

Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message

Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

LOL! Thanks for replying in both posts, Andre!
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message

So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

That should work.
-- Jason
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"Domey" wrote in message

So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Dual booting on the same drive is possible. You partition the drive as you say. That is still the same drive, just different partitions. Now you can not install in the same partition yes.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message

Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

The concept you describe I understood, I just have difficulty seeing one hd with two partitions as two 'drives'. I have x64 already on an unpartitioned 80gb hd. I will try to use Partition Magic to split it and install x86 on the new partition.
-- Domey ------------------ "AMDX2" wrote in message

Dual booting on the same drive is possible. You partition the drive as you say. That is still the same drive, just different partitions. Now you can not install in the same partition yes.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Yeah, you know what I mean, you can't install on one drive. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "AMDX2" wrote in message

Dual booting on the same drive is possible. You partition the drive as you say. That is still the same drive, just different partitions. Now you can not install in the same partition yes.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

There seem to be some confusion about 'drive' and 'drive letter' - generally a drive is a physical piece of hardware, whereas the drive letter conforms to a partition of a physical drive, you should never install two OS's on the same partition no matter if they should happen to be two versions of the same system. You may be able to pull it off, but not without major problems. What Andre is saying is that in the combination you mention, you wouldn't even be able to pull it off.
But using Partition Magic is not at all necessary, the installation handles it for you, in the case of Vista, it may even be preferable to keep it in the family, so-to-speek.
Tony. . .
"Domey" wrote in message

The concept you describe I understood, I just have difficulty seeing one hd with two partitions as two 'drives'. I have x64 already on an unpartitioned 80gb hd. I will try to use Partition Magic to split it and install x86 on the new partition.
-- Domey ------------------ "AMDX2" wrote in message Dual booting on the same drive is possible. You partition the drive as you say. That is still the same drive, just different partitions. Now you can not install in the same partition yes.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Thanks for the explanation Tony. I wish I had known about not needing Partition Magic. I already had x64 installed on the drive and did not have a clue Vista would have partitioned it. Maybe I can remove the partition with PM and then let Vista do it.
-- --- domey -------------------- "Tony Sperling" wrote in message

There seem to be some confusion about 'drive' and 'drive letter' - generally a drive is a physical piece of hardware, whereas the drive letter conforms to a partition of a physical drive, you should never install two OS's on the same partition no matter if they should happen to be two versions of the same system. You may be able to pull it off, but not without major problems. What Andre is saying is that in the combination you mention, you wouldn't even be able to pull it off.
But using Partition Magic is not at all necessary, the installation handles it for you, in the case of Vista, it may even be preferable to keep it in the family, so-to-speek.
Tony. . .
"Domey" wrote in message The concept you describe I understood, I just have difficulty seeing one hd with two partitions as two 'drives'. I have x64 already on an unpartitioned 80gb hd. I will try to use Partition Magic to split it and install x86 on the new partition.
-- Domey ------------------ "AMDX2" wrote in message Dual booting on the same drive is possible. You partition the drive as you say. That is still the same drive, just different partitions. Now you can not install in the same partition yes.
"Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Yep, once they are installed on separate partitions, there should be no problems at all. Dual booting on the same drive is not possible. -- Andre Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta "Domey" wrote in message So if I have, say, a 200gb hard drive, can I partition to two 100gb partitions and dual boot x86 with x64? I'll agree it doesn't sound like fun but is it doable?
-- Domey ------------------ "Andre Da Costa [Extended64]" wrote in message Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Yes, drivers are still problematic for 64-bit Windows, if you have any devices that are not supported on 64-bit Windows that are important to you, but work fine with x86 Vista, then thats good reason not to go with Vista x64. Also, certain applications will not run Vista x64, 16 bit applications and applications that utilize 16 bit installers and uninstallers.
Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how? No, you can't dual boot Vista x86 or x64 on the same drive, both require separate partitions, especially Vista x64 since there would be conflicts between the Program Files x86 and Program Files x64 folder, its just impossible. -- -- Andre Windows Connected | http://www.windowsconnected.com Extended64 | http://www.extended64.com Blog | http://www.extended64.com/blogs/andre http://spaces.msn.com/members/adacosta
"Domey" wrote in message Sorry for this posted twice but the first dropped into an existing post. . .
Q1: with 64bit hardware, is there any good reason to run Vista x86? Q2: Can Vista x86 and x64 be installed in a dual boot on the same drive.(no other OS will be installed. If so, how?
-- --- domey --------------------

Tony Sperling schrieb:

There seem to be some confusion about 'drive' and 'drive letter' - generally a drive is a physical piece of hardware, whereas the drive letter conforms to a partition of a physical drive, ...

IMHO a drive is a physical and/or logical drive (i.e. a physical drive may contain one or several logical drives, "partitions"), whereas the drive letter is an attribute - a name - given to the drive by the OS.
A drive is partitioned into logical drives. A drive letter is attributed - and changed - by the OS (in MS Windows

Disk Management).

Roy

Well, I couldn't really disagree, but when a bunch of people get together and try to solve someone's problem he will rarely be helped if everyone sticks to promoting their own view - it often is helpfull if everyone can abstract from their own personal view and promote an 'analog' view that conforms to what we are in fact looking at.
If you have a Hardware installation problem it will therefore be helpfull to name things according to the stuff you are holding in your hand, if it is a kind of a problem that you can solve from inside the OS it will be usefull to name things according to what we would be looking at from that viewpoint and according to what can be clicked on with the mouse pointer.
So, in a installation situation the term 'drive' is best reserved for the physical item. When the OS is up and running we would all be excused for using the term 'drive' to cover the item that is designated with a drive letter.
But I must confess that I am not a proponent for mindlessly exchanging the terms 'partition' and 'drive' - as I said, as seen from inside the OS, 'drive' is fine as the underlying technology is mainly hidden anyway, but if we are discussing anything remotely partition related, I think it will be highly confusing and harmful for understanding to start talking about drives.
Tony. . .

"Roy Coorne" wrote in message

Tony Sperling schrieb: There seem to be some confusion about 'drive' and 'drive letter' - generally a drive is a physical piece of hardware, whereas the drive letter conforms to a partition of a physical drive, ...
IMHO a drive is a physical and/or logical drive (i.e. a physical drive may contain one or several logical drives, "partitions"), whereas the drive letter is an attribute - a name - given to the drive by the OS.
A drive is partitioned into logical drives. A drive letter is attributed - and changed - by the OS (in MS Windows Disk Management).
Roy

Boy I am confused now <g>
Can someone help me with whether I can install Vista x64 on my box? I am running Windows XP x64, I would like to have a dual boot with Vista, so as not to corrupt my working machine.
I have 4 physical drives, set up as 2 sets of 2 logical drives, RAID 1. SO the first two drives are RAID 1 of Drive C, the next 2 drives are RAID 1 of Drive D. XP x64 boots from drive C.
Is there a way to install Vista x64 and not mess up XP?
thanks!
"Tony Sperling" wrote in message

Well, I couldn't really disagree, but when a bunch of people get together and try to solve someone's problem he will rarely be helped if everyone sticks to promoting their own view - it often is helpfull if everyone can abstract from their own personal view and promote an 'analog' view that conforms to what we are in fact looking at.
If you have a Hardware installation problem it will therefore be helpfull to name things according to the stuff you are holding in your hand, if it is a kind of a problem that you can solve from inside the OS it will be usefull to name things according to what we would be looking at from that viewpoint and according to what can be clicked on with the mouse pointer.
So, in a installation situation the term 'drive' is best reserved for the physical item. When the OS is up and running we would all be excused for using the term 'drive' to cover the item that is designated with a drive letter.
But I must confess that I am not a proponent for mindlessly exchanging the terms 'partition' and 'drive' - as I said, as seen from inside the OS, 'drive' is fine as the underlying technology is mainly hidden anyway, but if we are discussing anything remotely partition related, I think it will be highly confusing and harmful for understanding to start talking about drives.
Tony. . .

"Roy Coorne" wrote in message Tony Sperling schrieb: There seem to be some confusion about 'drive' and 'drive letter' - generally a drive is a physical piece of hardware, whereas the drive letter conforms to a partition of a physical drive, ...
IMHO a drive is a physical and/or logical drive (i.e. a physical drive may contain one or several logical drives, "partitions"), whereas the drive letter is an attribute - a name - given to the drive by the OS.
A drive is partitioned into logical drives. A drive letter is attributed - and changed - by the OS (in MS Windows Disk Management).
Roy